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Anyone else have a humorous tale to share on here?

Here is my latest. I had a guy ask me if I could come catch a coon for him that had been knocking over  his trash can outside the house. Since he lived on the edge of town I asked if he was sure it was a coon. He said that he was sure because he had seen it come through the yard and knock over the can a few times. I then made the mistake of asking how big it was. His reply was '' it's so big he is punting the trash can through the yard like a football''. Lol

Sierra Deitz Feb 8 '13 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 12
I began trapping because we had yotes decimating our deer herd in an Urban county here in Ga. I did not have a mentor and I guess that was good in a sense because it forced me to learn on my own by reading, studying and watching DVD's and Youtube. Mostly, it was from experimentation in the field. I did have people who substantially influenced my education as a Trapper. #1 was Craig O'Gorman. While I did not take personal lessons from him, I did read everything I could get my hands on that he wrote. I've studied his methology and logic and use many of his tactics and techniques on my line and in my business. No doubt, he was a Coyote killing machine. His book "Hoofbeats of a Wolfer" with all of the updates and Clint's book "Eastern Wolfer" are my go to books that I read over and over again, because each time I do, I learn something new or see something I didn't see the time before. I feel a connection thru those books to the trappers of long ago, Vernon Dorn, Keith Gregerson, and many others all the way back to the western trappers, some of who's tactics I incorporate into my system today. Mark June has also been an influence. Major Boddicker has been another major influence and I find his work most intriguing. I did take personal lessons from Scott Rainbolt in Morristown, Tennessee and learned much from him. But my job is to incorporate what I have learned from these guys and integrate that knowledge into my own system. I have since developed my own ADC business and website. I intend to work to build a client base so that when I retire from my regular job, I can go directly into Trapping and ADC work Full Time. That is my goal. So, thanks to the many Trappers that have come before us who were unselfish enough to share their extensive knowledge with us and give us many years of a head start. I for one appreciate it. Who was your mentor and influenced your trapping career the most?
Tim Ivey Feb 7 '13 · Comments: 18
What do y'all like better dp's or footholds for coons?
Tanner Clites Feb 5 '13 · Comments: 9
I, for one, work to understand how to properly use a particular scent for the most effective result. 8 of the last 9 Coyotes I've taken on the Farm have been on scent posts. And I firmly believe that it is due to the fact that the scent is above ground. I understand the concept of the different sets but the yotes on this tract of land seem to prefer the scent post for some reason. I run dirtholes, flat sets, post sets but have the most success with the scent post. I know this runs counter to most of y'alls systems but it is what it is. I review my system on a regular basis, switching up baits and scents to prevent habituation. The claim is that most coyotes are taken off of a dirthole set. And I have taken them from dirt holes also. The idea being you want the coyote to spend more time there and move his feet around more to step into your traps. But you have a very narrow scent cone coming out of the hole. That is why call lures and other lures are used to call the yote to the set so he will find the bait in the hole. Or the hole is put into the side of a bank for visual attraction. Personally, I prefer my scents/baits above ground so the currents and thermals can carry them and you have a much larger scent cone. I know if you are on location, it may not matter that much but on this Farm, these yotes are "grass walkers", leaving little sign, if any. So I set funnels, points, saddles, trails outside of pastures and even in the pastures in areas that are obvious to me that yotes travel through. I added some jack mackerel to my home made Modified Nelson lure last night so I look forward to seeing how it works on a Rub Post. If you are having coyotes digging your hole, I think you need to get that scent up off the ground on a scent or rub post. I don'[t want a yote digging around and digging or tripping my traps. It also gets their head up off the ground away from the trap bed. I'll post pics later of a golden lab that worked a rub post I put in my back yard with  my home made scent on it. It pulled the sheepwool off of the post and proceeded to rub from it's head to it's shoulder. Chemical triggers that I put in the scent activated an instinctive response to this lure. She then turned around backwards and peed the post. There is also pics of a feral cat doing the same. I'll post them when I get home from my regular job.
Tim Ivey Feb 5 '13 · Comments: 3
OK....I need input....

Rebar stakes are out of the equation for keeping coyotes from running off..... 

(done had one pull a stake and run off with my trap)

It's hard enough to get an (18") 1/2" stake pounded into the a longer stake really ain't an option.....

The "disposable" POS berkshires...I get about 3/4 of it in the ground and then the end bends flat...(try bedding a trap like doesn't work very well)

Drags may be my only option BUT......

What do you do with the chain or cable....?????  Just cover it....???

Which one is better....???

How long does the chain or cable need to be.....????

What about scent control on it.....?????

Joshua Marshall Feb 1 '13 · Comments: 16
G'day ya'll, hows that for deep south. 
Mark Lamb Feb 1 '13 · Comments: 15

I am on my second season of putting down a perimeter of traps on this large cattle farm here in Ga. This landowner has approximately 700 acres and roughly 200+ head of prime white faced Hereford cattle. He breeds them and sells to buyers all over the United States. His property is probably 85% pasture. There is a 200 ac. lake in addition to the property. There are the pastures, the woods and a slough that runs all the way around the tract. On Google Earth, which I use to find funnels before I set boots on the ground, you can see that this is the major travelway thru this region. It is LOADED with deer. I am setting now and working throughout the cattle birthing season. When I contacted him last year, he told me he'd had several newborn calves killed and eaten by yotes so my goal was to catch as many yotes as possible before they could get to the pastures. I took 7 yotes off of the Farm in the time I was there. This was the first time I'd set a tract this large and it took me a while to learn the property. I had to develop a system which was efficient and effective. I first used GE to locate the major funnels. I then went and set them up and then concentrated on other typical locations, based on scat and tracks and sightings. I actually found a coyote den on the property. It was on the southeastern facing slope of a hill in a woodlot above a small lake. Unfortunately, I bounced the breeding female off of the property. This year, I'm setting every pasture except this one. I'm going to wait until she moves into the den and then I hope to slip in with the Rock River .223 and take her out on the downwind side. I can see about 80 yards up into the woods and to the den. I'll slip in one morning before daylight and get setup. Hopefully, I'll get a shot. I caught her mate last year just 50 yards from the den in the pasture. There is one area I call the Gauntlet that is a dirt area that gets narrower the closer you get to a hardwood bottom and the swamp. It is only 6 ft. wide where it drops off into the oaks. I caught yotes all over the farm last year. I took two calf killers from the upper pasture...mangy old dogs both of em'.....caught them 30 yards from the kill site of the only newborn calf we lost to yotes. We lost two more that were still born. This landowner told me he'll pay me for every one I catch, he hates em. Because if they kill a calf, he's lost the money that calf was worth as well as the generations of cows she would have produced. I found another funnel which is an area of high ground that crosses the slough from his tract to another property. Several main trails cross here because there is basically no where else they can cross without swimming. It is an interesting setup. I caught two bobcats last year. The landowner had lived there 40 years and had never seen one.

Tim Ivey Jan 31 '13 · Comments: 3

by Clint Locklear

This little rant is not about the location to place a trap, but more about the understanding of why 2-6 locations on most farms are not enough. That is, if the idea of catching most if not close to all of the predators on a single track or several tracks of ground is your goal. Fur is high this year and will probably be that way for a while. Gas is high and so the cost to produce the fur is high. We as trappers may need to be thinking of running our lines with a little more concern in response to the higher cost of doing business, so our net profit is higher. One simple way to do this is to catch the fur on the ground we are trapping on, not just take the easy cream and run like a crazed fuel burning man of the seventies.

What I am going to say may make you re-think the idea of what a good location is and if we need to be covering more minor locations to put more animals in the shop per acre.

My personal experience on the amount of locations comes from many areas: fur trapping, control trapping, studying wolfers, learning primary and secondary locations and federal and university coyote studies.

In the beginning with my coyote trapping, I would search out and find the most used locations from locating sign. Over a couple of years of a lot of time spent with my eyes to the ground looking for tracks, kickbacks, kills and scat, picking these locations became routine. After a while it turned into a game. I would see a good location and then I would go see if sign was present. Anyone that spends a little time looking for coyotes will become good at picking the location then catching a coyote without the need to see sign. You will start to see patterns in terms of road, draws, water, fences, gates, passes, road kills, fields, deer trails and travel ways. The better I got at picking “THE” locations, the more coyotes I could catch faster. I was a long lining junky that would cover a lot of ground. Over time however, another pattern started to rear its head. I was setting and finding “THE” locations and seeing smaller less used locations that I was not setting. These less used locations might only have a set of tracks or a pile of crap or two. My way of thinking at the time was, set the “HOT” locations and the coyotes would show up in the traps. Everything was working like clockwork and I saw no reason to explore the smaller, less used locations.

After I was comfortable with my traps, snaring became legal in the counties I was trapping. I started setting up the crawl under at the fences. In the beginning I would drive the fence line and look for hair in the fence and slam in a snare. A lot of coyotes were caught setting this way. Then one day, I looked up and looked around as I cut the cable off of an old female coyote. What was the reason for the craw under to be so heavily used, why? That day and the rest of the season I became obsessed with trying to understand why the coyotes were crossing the fence where they were. A lot of times there seemed to be no reason at all. The more time that was spent trying to get a grasp on why coyotes would use a section of the fence, something became obvious. Most of the time, the travel ways that the coyotes were using WERE NOT ON LOCATION. I was catching the coyotes. I was seeing the holes and hair, but they did not seem to know that they should be where I had decided they should be. This conclusion rocked my confidence on where coyotes spend their time traveling. Later that year I was trapping on a 7,000 acres of re-claimed strip pit land. I started the line with traps. After about a week the weather was so bad that keeping traps working was a nightmare. It rained, snowed, and sleeted about every other day. The ground would freeze every night and thaw to a muddy mess during the day. Enough is enough, so I pulled the traps and started setting snares. On this 7,000 acres there ended up being about 220 snares. If I even thought that a coyote might walk somewhere, in went at least one snare. I set the roads, 4-wheeler trails, beaver dams, high and low bank trails, game trails, side trails and about every opening in the draws. I forced a lot of snares into places that they really should not been. This snare line will always be in the back of my mind. A little over 60 coyotes and 15 to 20 cats fell victim to the madness of my snare line. Besides the needed money of the furs, this snare line opened up my eyes to the world of a coyote in a different light. A pattern became clear; coyotes go where they want to, not where we think they should be. Sure they travel the “HOT” locations, but they were just as likely to be running on a not so story-book location. Believe it or not more coyotes were caught on smaller locations than were taken on the “trapper” locations. Even though I knew more coyotes were taken in the less obvious locations, I was reluctant to apply this to my foot holds.

As my control business started to transition to more coyotes and less beaver, the next series of lessons began. I would get hired by a client and most of the time I would only trap for the client for a period of time. So there I was on 1,000 to 8,000 acres 24 hours a day. Sometimes the client would be on the property every day or every few days. At the minimum I would get a call every couple of days for a catch report. Keep in mind that most of these clients are wealthy and are used to having things happen to their schedule and they expect results. After two weeks or so and you have 20-30 coyotes, it just sounds better than a daily report of 0-6 coyotes in a 24 hour period. Plus if I am staying on the property away from home the time that is spent on a single piece of property is obvious to the land manager or owner. There is no way that the client would be happy to pay me my bill if I were to set 2-10 locations on the farm. I would be done by 8 or 9 in the morning and sitting on my butt for the rest of the day. This would be hard to explain to a man that you only caught two coyotes today and you’re resting for the rest of the day that. Most clients don’t understand trapping, but they want results if they are paying you for your service. So I found myself in the situation that I needed to be working on the trap line, setting and checking traps for several hours in a day. This started as a way to keep the client happy and to show him that I was earning my money. So when I worked on a job, I just keep setting traps, lots of traps. When I started this procedure on control jobs it was more to keep the client happy. Today however, when I keep setting traps it is for the practically of it. I will first set the major locations and then set up the minor locations. I basically set my trap line just like I did with the snare line on the strip pit. The more clients that I trapped for and the more traps I would set on a piece of ground the more patterns I noticed with locations. The pattern matched the snare line on the strip pit. As many or more coyotes were caught on what most trappers would call minor locations over the time that traps are set.

Most trappers that trap year round or a trapper that spends a lot of time in the woods hunting, fishing or maybe his job has him outside more to perform his occupation will see coyotes during the day. I have seen coyotes during the day all over the country and have noticed the same pattern. Now I want you to take a moment and think of the coyotes you have seen in the field. Take another moment and see in your mind’s eye where you saw the coyotes. Personally I have never seen a coyote where I would put in a set. Many times a lot of time was spent trying to figure out some rhyme or reason as to why the coyote was where they were. I could dismiss this observation, but I have seen many coyotes from the truck and not one matched what has been taught as to where coyotes should be in reference to major locations.

So I guess the question is; is the “HOT” location more important to hammering coyotes than the minor locations? If as many coyotes are caught in the minor locations, are they really minor locations when a coyote man is trying to catch most of the coyotes off of a track of ground?

Yes I know setting more traps on a track of ground is more work. I understand that this mindset may go against the normal information that has been preached from the mountain top since the last fur boom. Just keep one thing in mind, fur prices are rising, so does it make sense to drive by more fur than you have traps set on your next farm?

Clint Locklear Jan 29 '13 · Rate: 5 · Comments: 5 · Tags: coyote, coyote trapping, trap placement, how to catch
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